Jesse Michaels, host of American Alchemy, joins us for an unprecedented deep dive into the current state of UAP disclosure, revealing insider perspectives on Silicon Valley's true involvement, the psychology of whistleblowers, and why consciousness research may be the key to understanding the phenomenon.

Episode Breakdown:

In this revelatory conversation, we explore:

The real story behind Jesse's meetings with David Grusch - years before his public testimony

Jake Barber's "5D hologram" testimony and its implications for our understanding of reality

Why Silicon Valley isn't as interested in UAPs as conspiracy theorists claim

The disturbing pattern of UFO researchers converting to deep religious faith

How venture capital due diligence skills apply to investigating UAP claims

The connection between parapsychology, remote viewing, and the phenomenon

Why the Aztec crash might not be the hoax Wikipedia claims

The role of "limited hangouts" and controlled opposition in UFO disclosure

This conversation bridges the gap between nuts-and-bolts craft retrieval stories and the consciousness aspects of the phenomenon that mainstream UFOlogy often ignores. Jesse's unique background in both venture capital and deep UAP research provides insights you won't find anywhere else.

Guest Bio: Jesse Michaels is the host of American Alchemy, one of the most respected channels covering UAPs, consciousness, and frontier science. His interviews with David Grusch, Jake Barber, Gary Nolan, and other key figures have reshaped public understanding of the phenomenon.