Rappoport interviewed
by Jon Rappoport
July 6, 2022
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What’s your view on disinformation?
I’m convinced I can spot it.
Are you tolerant when you do?
Of course not.
So you’re just as bad as the government.
Wrong. I’m not setting up a Board to censor disinformation.
You’re intolerant, yet tolerant.
Exactly.
You’re convinced you’re right, but you want to allow other people to be wrong.
Correct.
Suppose you’re wrong about a piece of information?
Then I’m wrong. That doesn’t mean I want to be censored.
Why not? Suppose you have 9 million readers and all but one of them want you to be censored?
Then I’m writing to that one reader.
And you’d be satisfied with that?
Of course not.
And if the government wants to censor you?
I resist. We see what happens.
So you’re in favor of radical free speech?
Free speech isn’t radical. It’s free.
But you don’t highlight other people’s views in your writing.
Sure I do. I quote them.
But you rely on yourself.
Who else am I supposed to rely on?
Experts?
If you mean people with degrees and official standing, then no. Unless they can prove their case.
Why doesn’t the New York Times quote you?
They don’t want to.
Why not?
You know, I’m friends with the managing editor of the Times.
You are?
Just the other day, we were having drinks together and he told me, “If we quoted you, Jon, our whole operation here would collapse.”
He said that?
He’s mentioned it more than once. I’ve suggested that the collapse of the Times would be a good thing. I would help him build from the ashes. He doesn’t seem to be interested.
Does he want to censor you?
He and his pals are censoring me right now.
What? What do you mean?
You’re only reading part of what I’m writing. Huge chunks disappear as I set them down on the page.
What do the chunks say?
If I rewrite them, they’ll vanish before you read them.
Are the chunks important?
They’re vital.
Maybe they should be censored.
Why?
If they think the chunks shouldn’t see the light of day…
You’ll never get a chance to decide.
Maybe I don’t care.
Or maybe you’re just lazy or scared.
I’m cautious about digesting information.
Information isn’t a pill, you know. You can look it over, read it, come to a conclusion yourself.
Right now, are you writing chunks that are disappearing?
Between my last two answers, three hours elapsed. I wrote 16 pages, and they vanished.
They were important?
Very.
Are you troubled by that?
I press on, regardless. Are you troubled?
Maybe a little. The idea of disappearing text—instantly disappearing—
That’s what censorship is.
I never get a chance to see it?
That’s what I’m telling you.
OK. I want the chance to see it.
You and millions of people want that chance to see and read what thousands of other people are writing and saying.
This is eerie. I don’t like it.
Why should you like it?
I have to go.
Where?
Back to my job.
What do you do?
I work for a company that wouldn’t like it if they knew I were talking to you.
What company is that?
I censor that chunk of information.
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Jon Rappoport
The author of three explosive collections, THE MATRIX REVEALED, EXIT FROM THE MATRIX, and POWER OUTSIDE THE MATRIX, Jon was a candidate for a US Congressional seat in the 29th District of California. He maintains a consulting practice for private clients, the purpose of which is the expansion of personal creative power. Nominated for a Pulitzer Prize, he has worked as an investigative reporter for 30 years, writing articles on politics, medicine, and health for CBS Healthwatch, LA Weekly, Spin Magazine, Stern, and other newspapers and magazines in the US and Europe. Jon has delivered lectures and seminars on global politics, health, logic, and creative power to audiences around the world. You can sign up for his free NoMoreFakeNews emails here or his free OutsideTheRealityMachine emails here.