Out-of-body explorers are unanimous about the fact that the lower levels of the astral world are solid and earth-like. Jurgen Ziewe has been having out-of-body experiences for hours at a time in full waking consciousness for over forty-five years. He explains that we need to get used to the fact that our "afterlife" will be more real not less real, more "physical" not less "physical". To get inspiration and more in-depth knowledge of the astral worlds, see Jurgen's books, his website, and his video channel.